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From WotC: Geek Ken, no board games for you
Folks have been gushing about Lords of Waterdeep. Stone Age just hasn’t been getting that much play time on my table, so I’ve considered investing into another worker placement game. It looks like there are some neat twists with Lords of Waterdeep, and the player interaction is a bit more complex than shutting out players from certain locations. Stone Age is a fun game. It has some minuses, but overall an enjoyable game with a neat theme. I just haven’t been playing it as much and Lords of Waterdeep is all sparkly.
So I eagerly placed an order from a fantastic board game store that ships internationally. I live in Asia. I’ve used this store for years. They are the cat’s pajamas for an online source of board games. Not going to name them as I don’t want any fallout with the email correspondence. I’ll call them ‘Awesome Board Game Store’ for this post. I eagerly placed an order for Lords of Waterdeep and a few other games. A couple of days later I get this…
Hi Geek Ken,
Unfortunately we are unable to send Wizards of the Coast products outside the United States so we’ll be unable to send Lords of Waterdeep on your order. I’m happy to replace it with another game, or just cancel it off the order all together. Please let me know what you’d like to do. Thanks.
— Awesome Board Game Store
Bummer. Now it kills me to do this, as I was really looking forward to having a bundle of board games. Taking one out makes the shipping expense a little harder to justify. I really hadn’t thought too much on getting an alternate. So I bite the bullet and cancel my order. My reply:
I have recently logged into my Awesome Board Game Store account and cancelled my order. My apologies for cancelling. If possible, could you please indicate why the board game could not be shipped internationally? I am curious as there are very few local retailers within [ASIAN COUNTRY] that handle Hasbro/WotC products exclusively.
Regards,
GK
I was curious why the sudden change in policy. I think I ordered Gamma World from this Awesome Board Game Store, along with dungeon tiles. This was sort of new for me. So I had prodded further to find out why. I get an interesting reply.
Hi Geek Ken,
We (and all US retailers) are unable to send any WotC items outside of the US as a condition for doing business with WotC. As they are a fairly large company they want to let their “local” businesses service their markets. I think most of this has to do with Magic but it’s a blanket condition. WotC is not very forgiving for businesses who break that agreement.
— Awesome Board Game Store
I sort of understand the policy for trying to bolster the brick and mortar store. But as international customers go, I’d bet most folks use these online stores as they are the only source for WotC products. I’m also figuring that it is to support Magic sales from local retailers, instead of people buying them in bulk from some online source. Maybe board games got lumped into this also.
Yet I get a bit worried. Is this for ‘all’ WotC products? What about the reprint editions for AD&D? Granted I could see WotC keeping huge book retailers like Amazon out of the loop, but I was counting on using places like Awesome Board Game Store to pick them up. I live in Asia. English is not the country’s native language. There really isn’t much demand for role playing games, especially enough for local retailers to spring forth. It’s just not in the culture. So being a bit worried, I prod further…
Completely understand. I am curious, does this include rulebooks from WotC? I am curious as some products such as the AD&D 1st Edition: Player’s Handbook is only available through smaller independent retailers as yourself (can’t order these books through Amazon or Barnes and Noble). If this is the case, please contact the sales representative you work through for WotC and express how restrictive their policy is. There are some customers (such as myself living as an expat in Asia) that have no other option but to purchase their products from international distributors like that of your store.
Regards,
GK
I get a response and I am floored by this.
Hi Geek Ken,
Yes it does. The rules apply to all WotC products including their out of print stuff, as we’ve specifically asked about that before.
Trust me we’d love nothing more than to sell WotC items to you, as you’re not the only non-US customer we’ve had to disappoint but their policy remains unchanged.
We can’t ship to any address outside the US.
— Awesome Board Game Store
WotC/Hasbro, you have a sliver of international customers that rely on online retailers for your products. Having this policy means I can’t buy any of your stuff set aside for local retailers, ever. Stuff like the new AD&D reprints, Mordenkainen’s Magnificent Emporium, all of it is a no go for me. There simply are no local retailers here interested in carrying these products (foreign country, with its own language, means stuff printed in english is a low priority).
However, I guess customers like me simply are not part of the business model your company executes. Sucktastic.
[EDIT: For full transparency, I’ve removed the names of the people on these emails and truncated the last email where the representative from the Awesome Board Game Store offered a solution by shipping the products to an address in the United States, where that private individual could then send it as a parcel to me. As I said, they are an Awesome Board Game Store.]
Off for a city adventure…
…likely meaning I’ll be stuck in meetings all day.
Traveling out of the country again for a bit. I’ve put my SW/Traveller game on hold as some of my players are taking an extended holiday, but I’ve been hankering to jump back into a sci-fi campaign for a while. Think I am a tad burned out with running another D&D game. Although I’m certain in a few months I’ll get the itch again.
Till then, I’ve been pilfering images to show to my players different planets in the systems they’ll be roaming in. This deviant art pic from dacheatha is quite inspiring for a overcrowded cityscape.
Joerden Leigh also has some stuff I like, particularly his urban environments. This is a neat skyline that is more sprawling than one of high buildings.
Off to the jungle…
… well not quite but I’ll be travelling south and out of the country for a bit. Expecting hot and humid weather, not to mention consuming vast quantities of 333. Be back in about a week.
While part of a different canon, I always dug the Slann from Warhammer Fantasy. With a combination of brutes, dart shooting skirmishers, along with huge battle triceratops, and ancient psionic Old Ones, I might need to craft an adventure or two regarding them. They’ve got this combination of primal fury and potential of the far beyond that makes for some cool ideas. Toodles for now!
Off for a little island adventure…
Man I wish I was going to places like this, just have to settle for another work trip. Be out and about with spotty internet for a week or so. Until then enjoy some thematic jungle ruins from Mike Franchina. He’s got some amazingly inspirational stuff up on his blog.
Traveller again…
I’m out of the country for most of the week with limited internet access. Another work trip and I’ve come to realize I simply fail as an international travelling man of leisure.
The D&D campaign is wrapping up and some of my players are hankering for other settings. I wanted to run something for Dark Sun, but likely most are balking at that one. Maybe I’ll take a short spin with the recent version of Traveller from Mongoose Publishing. Did a bit of gaming way back when with both the old 80’s boxed set and MegaTraveller version. Looks like a fun game to run.
Happy New Year!
It’s lunar new years so I’ll be busy stuffing my face with relatives and not likely be posting much new stuff for a bit.
I’ve always found Asian mythology pretty interesting. Their dragons have a different legend associated with them. Dragons in Asian cultures are typically more benevolent and tied with prosperity compared to the horrible beasts of Europe. The Korean dragon is different as it is more of a chimera of animal characteristics, with the eyes, teeth, ears, and such from particular animals.
I haven’t really tried out an Asian-themed D&D campaign. I might try doing that sometime. It might make for a very different break from the typical medieval structure of most fantasy games. Demons are particularly common as well as evil spirits, so that might be a nice focus for an evil villain group aside from the regular orcs and goblins.
True Asian dragons might be difficult though. But I’ve been thinking their alignment might be towards particular races or even the fey. Korean dragons commonly have strong roots with agricultural spirits. So while they are not evil, they might be a problem for players serving as a powerful ally for other races. I’ll have to think about that and maybe dip my toe into an Asian-themed campaign in the future.
Post redux
When I was notified things were a little fluid at This is My Game, I was unsure about the status of the site. I ended up archiving a few articles I posted there. Likely throughout this year you will see them re-posted and likely tweaked a bit here.
I still think This is My Game is still running, but going through some changes of the administrative hats. Once the construction dust settles I think you might find me still making some guest posts there.
Fun Flicks: Troll Hunter
So as ‘found footage’ films go I think it is a pretty tired theme for movies. Yet for the Norwegian fantasy horror movie, Troll Hunter, it works great.
In a nutshell the movie follows some Norwegian film students out to get some documentary footage on bear hunters that hunt down animals which leave protected areas and become a threat to the public. The students find out about a mysterious poacher that many of the hunters complain about. After all, they have to obtain a special licence from the government to kill these bears, and this poacher runs around killing bears illegally. As the students attempt to interview this poacher, they begin to realize this hunter is after other prey.
It’s a pretty fun movie that is less on scares and more on dark humor. But I’ll say there are definitely a few bits that get the hairs raising up on the back of your neck. I understand that the movie will be getting a US remake treatment. I think it’s pretty sad that distributors think a wonderful film like this just isn’t US market material. Instead you have to get a studio to basically refilm the entire thing for the english dialogue (come to think of it, why not just bring back good old dubbing?).
Granted sometimes remakes can do wonders. Of recent mind is Hammer Films’, Let Me In. But I’m more partial to the Swedish original, Let the Right One In. Still I guess if Hollywood is stuck in a rut for ideas, it’s great to give a nod to foreign films.
As for D&D, I’ll admit the movie gave me a few ideas. Overall it captured that excitement in exploring the unknown. I’ll have to add the tension of laying down bait to capture a potential monster was exciting too. It’s inspired me to consider the one shot adventure of having a group look into hunting down some mysterious beast. Getting the party come up with ideas to track, hunt, and trap (or kill) such a monster could be a big part. Nothing wrong with a good old Jabberwocky hunt I think.
Oh and for you folks responsible for Norwegian tourism, please push to promote this little gem of a film from your country. I found the scenic footage stunning. Odd to think such a small quirky film could capture the beauty of Norway so well.
TBEMFTB
Get out and game, and buy something too.
Newbie DM has recently lamented about local bookstores becoming a thing of the past. Sadly, I think we are at a huge transition with the written media. When kindle and book readers came out in the market, I really didn’t think they reached that great of an audience. Now with the advent of tablets and the iPad, I think that customer base for digital books has exploded. I really feel in another 5 years, you are going to see most kids coming out of high school with a preference for books in a digital format. It is simply something they are used to working with and familiar. It’s going to happen.
What does this say about games? I’ve got some thoughts on that to fold into another post. However there is something I’ve touched on before and I think worth mentioning again. If you have a local gaming store, and they offer a means to get folks together and play games, throw them some business. Occasionally step up and actually buy something from their shelves.
Years ago I was at a small bookstore/game shop participating in a 40K demo (way back with 3rd edition). I along with a few other guys were fans of the game and were offering to a public play event in the store and help get some folks excited about playing. As far as I was concerned, the shop got business, and we got some new blood stepping into the local play scene. It was win-win for me.
There was a new person that gotten a great interest in playing. He started asking about how to get started and what should he pick up. Quietly one of the guys running the demo took him aside and said he should pick up his stuff online from website X. They offered discount deals below retail that you could get at the local store.
Now this is a hobby, and I can understand trying to get the best deal you can sometimes (GW stuff can be an expensive hobby to pick up), however I was rather floored by this. Okay maybe the bulk of your army get someplace else, but at least suggest getting the rules and a squad or two (not to mention paints and other supplies) right off the shelves in the store. Nope, he was adamant that the guy get stuff online at a cheaper price.
Mr. Cheapo failed to realize that without us playing in the store, we’d likely never have gotten this guy interested in 40K in the first place. Here was a person ready to jump into the hobby. In a month or so, we could have been seeing a new face around every few Saturday afternoons, with a new army in tow, anxious to play. A new guy to play and a new customer for the store, win-win. Mr. Cheapo just didn’t see the big picture here.
So don’t be that guy. If you frequent a game shop and they offer a friendly place for the local game community to hang out, give them some business. I get saving money and making your gaming purchases frugal. But once in a while, stop by that local game shop and buy something. Without them you’ll likely find it a tough time meeting new gamers.
Oh and after a few years, that bookstore dumped it’s gaming stock. Just wasn’t profitable to dedicate space for merchandise that wasn’t selling.








